Monday, July 10, 2006

Murtha Just Can’t Keep His Mouth Shut!

How many times does it take for this aging Representative from Pennsylvania to realize his leftist rhetoric is actually being records and that he has far too many skeletons in his closet to be finger-pointing and accusing?

We first heard of his anti-war rhetoric as he idly accused a squad of combat decorated Marines of murdering Iraqis “in cold blood.” Of course, the investigation into the incident in Haditha wasn’t finished or released, but that didn’t stop John Murtha from standing before Congress and condemning US Marines without any due process, something he also demands be given our enemies bent of actually murdering all of us.

Just last week, he was caught giving a speech in Miami, Florida wherein he was accused of saying; "American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran." After a couple days, he and supporters of his complained that he did not actually say that. According to Murtha, as he excused his gaffe, "I was recently misquoted following a speech I gave at a Veterans forum at the Florida International University Biscayne Campus on June 24, 2006. During the speech, I made a point that our international credibility was suffering, particularly due to our continued military presence in Iraq and that we were perceived as an occupying force. For illustrative purposes, I provided the example of a recent Pew Poll which indicates a greater percentage of people in 10 of 14 foreign countries consider the U.S. in Iraq a danger to world peace than consider Iran or North Korea a danger to world peace.”


You see, he said it, but he didn’t say it, he was, as are all liberals when caught, “misquoted,” “taken out of context,” or “misinterpreted.”

According to a July 8, 2006 Washington Times editorial, where apparently a video was seen of the speech, Murtha’s actual words were, "Every one of our allies think that the United States being in Iraq is more dangerous to world stability and world peace, every one of our allies; Great Britain, every single country... They think it's more, uh, we're more dangerous to world peace than North Korea or Iran.”

Wouldn’t it be refreshing to see the Jack Murtha’s of the world actually stand behind their words, for a change?

Now, in an interview quoted in the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat, Murtha has attacked his opponent, Diana Irey. According to the article, “Murtha said he is concerned about Irey’s motivation for running against him, considering her husband, Robert, is CEO of a Canonsburg-based firm that secured a $300 million contract with the Iraqi government two years ago.“I worry about that,” he said. “If they’re benefiting from this war, and if this is the reason she’s in this, it really bothers me. I don’t like that.”

So, now he is raising accusations of his opponent “profiting off of the War on Terror.”

Ms. Irey responded on her web site, “For the record: My husband, Robert Irey, is a partner in a firm that once had a subcontract with the Iraqi Government, jointly administered by the U.S. Department of Defense, to help the new democratic Government of Iraq take over the burden of defending itself by refurbishing equipment and material destroyed or damaged by the war. Had that contract been fulfilled, it would have allowed the Iraqi Government to take over more of the burden of defending itself sooner – which would have had the result of making possible a withdrawal of U.S. troops sooner than they would otherwise have been able to come home.”


“But that contract was terminated more than a year and a half ago, when one of Bob’s partners and one of their employees were murdered in Iraq - a fact reported at the time by both the Los Angeles Times and The Associated Press, and, therefore, presumably known to Jack Murtha.”


She goes on to say that other than one $10,000 down payment, her husband’s firm has not received a dime of the $1.6 million owed.


Doing a bit of digging I discovered just who really might be profiting off of this war. Jack Murtha, that’s who! In an article from the publication, “The Hill,” Jack Murtha is identified as “the No. 1 beneficiary of defense campaign donations in the House … and has not fallen below No. 3 for Congress as a whole” for the past 3 years!


Ms. Irey’s husbands firm has received a paltry $10,000 one time down payment while Murtha has received campaign contributions over $188,000 from Defense Contractors.

How long will it take this time for the Representative from Pennsylvania to cry once again, “I was misquoted and taken out of context?”


John Murtha is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the US Marine Corps he once served in and to the State of Pennsylvania. His 35 year tenure in Congress has made him either complacent or he is so warped with hatred of President Bush and Republicans in general that he forgets his own skeletons before opening his mouth and inserting his foot.

Add these quotes together and his role as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the ABSCAM scandal of the 1980s and it is plain to see he needs to be sent to the unemployment line.
Citizens of Pennsylvania and America deserve better than this.

16 comments:

Lew said...

Chancuff, what troubles me more is politicians as Murtha undermining the morale of our Servicemembers in harms way.

I am a bit flattered that you would take the trouble of commenting here, since I am not in Pa. I visited twice on my way to Ft. Dix for shipping out, though.

Still, Murtha has made his bed and his words are disturbing, especially stating Marines were killing in cold blood, before any invetigations were even finished and apparently stating he was told this before he actually was.

I realize many are against this war and that befuddles me too. Still, it's their right, but I don't see them having a right to undermine the effort while we have brave men and women fighting it. Question it, suggest different tactics to win it, not cut and run, again, I have no problem with that.

BTW, just because a group owns something outright doesn't necessarily mean they operate it on a day to day basis.

Lest you believe I am just another braindead Republican, let me state that I am first and foremost a conservative. I was a Democrat until I saw the leftist commanderring the party and instituting a socialist agenda. The Democrat party I grew up in would not go for that, but today's is different, apparently.

Ms. Irey has garnered the support of several Veterans like me from across the country. We are not under the control of Rove or Bill Pascoe, just Veterans who see what we fought for before being undermined and the country we have supported being gradually stripped of his pride and freedoms by the left.

I cannot vote in Pa., naturally, but support Ms. Irey because she seems very capapble to me and because a man like Jack Murtha has no business in our government, inspite of an honorable military past.

If Military Service is a precusor to serving, then the left had no business supporting and running Bill Clinton or attacking the Swift Boat Veterans as each man who signed against Kerry were also well decorated combat Veterans.

In closing, my support of Ms. Irey (who is actually in her 40's, btw)has nothing to do with one quote from Lincoln, whether actual or not. It has everything to do with desiring to see a man like Jack Murtha redeployed from the House.

Lew said...

Happy Now?

IREY APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKEN LINCOLN "QUOTE"

(MONONGAHELA, August 25) -- Washington County Commissioner and Pennsylvania 12th district Republican Congressional nominee Diana Irey -- acknowledging an error of fact -- today released the following statement:

"Today I became aware for the first time that a line I used in a May press conference was not, in fact, a quote from Abraham Lincoln. It was a mistake to say the line came from President Lincoln, and the mistake was mine. I apologize.

"Abraham Lincoln himself -- yes, you can look it up! -- had a perfect line for occasions such as this: writing to Horace Greeley in August of 1862, our 16th President said, 'I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.*'

"I would hope that my example today -- in acknowledging, apologizing for, and correcting an error of fact within just a few hours of having the error brought to my attention -- would serve as an example to all our political leaders."



* Source: Bartlett's Familiar Quotations, Seventeenth Edition: Justin Kaplan, General Editor [Little, Brown & Company: Boston New York London, 2002], note 14, page 475.

http://www.irey.com/news/contentview.asp?c=35681

chancuff said...

THE ANATOMY OF BOOTMURTH.COM's and DIANA IREY's Crash & Burn

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/134103794?r=134103794#134103794

(Click all the links, or you'll get/be lost.)


Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too

Lew said...

Well, Cliff, I must admit you confuse the hell out of me. But, since by your own words at your blog, I am not only one of the "Freeper reefer smokin' buds at the Free Republic," but also a "Swift Boat Gang of fools," I guess that is to be expected.

No, I am not a Swiftee myself, just very active on their forum since well before the election. I do take exception to your claim of the Swift Boat Gang of Fools "who never gave a crap about our troops at war in Iraq." There are a lot of Viet Nam Vets there (including yours truly) as well as spouses, widows, parents and supporters of Veterans. Are you accusing us all of "who never gave a crap about our troops at war in Iraq?"

Like I siad, you do leave me confused. While you claim to be a conservative (I'll take your word for it, if you are), then state you will be in Johnstown with a small group of Murtha supporters, then close with a link to "Vote for Irey."

If you come back this way, maybe you can shed a little light on this and un-confuse me.

Until then, CLiff, get some sleep. You sound like someone whose advice is not being followed when you feel it should and maybe have had too much to drink. Can't say that is so, but that is what it sounds like.

However, if this is just a personal squabble between you and Bailey, please keep it between you two.

chancuff said...

go back to the "blog" (Johnstown's Tribune-Democrat comments page) and find the work Al Qaqaa. It's a link. Click and learn why any swiftboater has earned the discriptive:
"the Swift Boat Gang of Fools "who never gave a crap about our troops at war in Iraq."

Things are JUST NOT GOING WELL for the folks at the "Diana Irey for Congress" camp.

Diana Irey Press Release UPDATE!

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/911101894
(read first 4 posts, the rest if you fancy to)

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/631100794

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/134103794
(click all links found in post, or you will get/be lost)

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too

Lew said...

If by "Somebody's got to fix what these Republicans broke. Are you part of the solution, Larry? Or are you just hanging on for one more acting gig?" you mean Democrats and their wave the white flag solution is what is needed, you're on the wrong blog.

Frankly, I still am not too sure just what you wish to happen. I can see you are opposed to the SPVT and FreeRepublic, your privilege. But, in all your ranting on your own blog, I did not see any viable solution suggested.

If you feel keeping someone like Murtha in Congress, with his "redeploy the troops," no wait, "reinstitute a draft and get more," no wait, bring them home because they are murdering innocent civilians in cold blood," no wait, "bring back the draft again so we can spread the responsibility out fairer," I have to disagree.

Citing "Stay The Course" and "they only have fear to offer" while advocating a return to the head in the sand tactics that prevailed throughout the 90s isn't a solution. It's only a postponment.

I don't like war. I'd rather not be at war. But, it's time to wake up and see that they declared war on us and the partisan bickering and dividing is just weakening our strength.

As I say elsewhere, Democrats can't win this. Republicans can't win this. Only Americans and those from other countries that join in and take a stand against these vermin will win this.

It's time to realize they are at war with us and we better act accordingly.

chancuff said...

"Swift Boat Veterans for Themselves" ignored a couple issues CRITICAL to our troops at war during the run-up to the 2004 election.

First they sat silent knowing full well that Bush NEVER USED the number of troops he incessantly claims his generals asked for. Turkey would not allow the 40,000 troops of the 4th to pass through and participate in Bush's invasion of Iraq.

Second, These same Lookatme! Showboaters sat silent when this very same troop shortage resulted in America's greatest tragedy of the war in Iraq.

EVERYONE who's ever gone through basic training knows that when you find your enemies weapons, you keep them secure.

Hundreds of tons of high explosives that our troops had captured at Al Qaqaa were abandoned specifically due to troops shortages, CREATED by Bush's incompetence in war.

These explosive stolen from Al Qaqaa are the weapons that have been used to blow our troops into too many parts to count each and every day of this war.

When some pasty butt wimp, like Larry Bailey of bootmurtha.com, decides to pass his "gimme' some money" collection plate to support his concept of patriotism for a circus tent performance at The Cambria County War Memorial on October 1st of this year ...

Some would say there's nothing more patriotic than putting a moron who's never given a hoot about our troops at war (or he would have spoke up about those 40k troops left behind and Al Qaqaa IN 2004) in his proper place ...he's a coward.

To make matters even MORE entertaining, Larry Bailey actually thinks having John O'Neill, the original Lookatme! Show Boater, as his surprise guest speaker is a feather in his cap.

You may not like the stand John Murtha has been making, but for anyone who supports our troops at war, there's no way to respond to these idiot Swiftboaters' Reunion in Murtha's home town of Johnstown, Pa, than a chorus of Bronx raspberries.

I hope this clarifies.


Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
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Things are JUST NOT GOING WELL for the folks at the "Diana Irey for Congress" camp.

Diana Irey Press Release UPDATE!

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/fo...611/m/911101894
(read first 4 posts, the rest if you fancy to)

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/fo...611/m/631100794

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/fo...611/m/134103794
(click all links found in post, or you will get/be lost)

Lew said...

Swift Boat Veterans for Themselves" ignored a couple issues CRITICAL to our troops at war during the run-up to the 2004 election.

Cliff, either you have a bad infection of BDS, or your anger is very misplaced.

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, as an organization, did not support George Bush nor were they a front for Republicans. Their sole mission was opposing John Kerry.

You may find that confusing, but that is the way it was. I edited and deleted many a post placed up on the forum that was advocating electing Bush. Not because I oppose him, but because the forum wasn’t set up to support Bush. Nor did the group come together because of links to the Republican Party. Unlike Moveon.org and other left 527s, paid and supported by George Soros mainly, their main support was from little people like me sending in small donations as we could.

True, their first large donation was a wealthy Texas Republican, but who else would you expect to donate to them, the Clintons?

You may not like the stand John Murtha has been making, but for anyone who supports our troops at war, there's no way to respond to these idiot Swiftboaters' Reunion in Murtha's home town of Johnstown, Pa, than a chorus of Bronx raspberries.

No, I don’t care for the stand Murtha has taken. Of course, it depends on what day it is as well.

The great thing about America is you have the freedom to give that chorus of Bronx Raspberries as much as I have the freedom to speak out against Murtha, Kerry, Gore or whoever is running for public office that I disagree with. You see, freedoms and liberties are granted to me as much as you.

As I stated in this original post, Murtha needs to just shut up.

Sorry, but I don’t see his actions as “supportive of the troops.” I see it as undermining their morale and believe me, when in harm’s way we needed all the morale boosters we could get, not less.

Had Murtha actually stood by what he says, maybe I could find some respect for him, but even in disagreement, he whines he was misquoted, taken out of context or misrepresented. Doesn’t the left have any men left?

He advocates withdrawing our troops from Iraq to “nearby Okinawa so they could do a rapid response, if needed. Never mind it’s over 6,000 miles between the two.

He claims he was told about the Marines actions at Haditha by a Marine General, but that same Marine General comes out and says he never spoke to Murtha until after Murtha made his inflammatory remarks about the Marines “killing in cold blood.”

He tries to paint Diana Irey’s husband as a war profiteer, even though he knows full well he was never even paid what he was owed. Then, he absentmindedly forgets to mention his own connection to ABSCAM as an un-indicted co-conspirator.

One day he calls for withdrawal of the troops, then withdrawal of as many as possible, then re-deployment in agreement with John Kerry’s “over the horizon” plan (more affectionately stated by me as “somewhere over the rainbow.”)

Then, he has the audacity to state, “If the President is genuinely serious in his comparison with communism and fascism, perhaps he should reconsider a call to reinstate the draft.”

Reinstate the draft? Withdraw troops, but reinstate the draft also?

He claims, “The burden of the Iraq War has fallen squarely on our all-volunteer military and their families.” HELLO!!!!! Who else answers the call when we only have an ALL VOLUNTEER SERVICE?

Wasn’t it the Kerry’s, Hubbards and other ilk of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War back in the early 70’s that successfully lobbied for an end to the draft? Now, they want it reinstated, whether the Military desires it or not?

He finishes off with, “Two years ago, I was one of only two in the House of Representatives who voted for a draft, because I believe if we are a country truly at war, the burden should be shared proportionately and fairly.”

How much fairer can it be than no one goes in other than those that choose too?

Sorry, Cliff, but it seems to me you have hitched your wagon to a falling star. Is your BDS so severe that you can’t see who is really out of touch?

Lew

mtboone said...

Cliff, you can not speak about the SVPT and you have no idea what we represent other than what you read on your left wing posts or from fellow Democrats.

I am a member of that group and can honestly tell you it was a matter of principle against Kerry and not for Bush. Bush just happened to win because of Veterans like us and the majority of the American people in the last election.

You do not understand Honor and how Kerry dishonored so many VN vets, nor will you ever will.

chancuff said...

"I am a member of that group and can honestly tell you it was a matter of principle against Kerry and not for Bush. Bush just happened to win because of Veterans like us and the majority of the American people in the last election."

As a member of this group, please feel free to trump Larry Bailey and his bootmurtha.com cowards regarding your, and every other swiftboaters' neglect of two key issues that resulted in thousands of our troops being blown to bits, unnecessarily.

1) the 40,000 troops of the 4th our current Commander in Chief KNOWINGLY left behind when he declared war in Iraq.

2) the catastrophic consequence of not having enough troops to keep a couple hundred tons of explosives under control at Al Qaqaa.

I got a "stupid mistake" out of Larry Bailey.

Are you man enough to top that?

FWIW, Lookatme! Larry thought I was a liberal, too.

What's with you dittoheads thinkin' all that is not black, must be white?

additionally, not that this matters one stich, there's no group, it's just me, my Irish temperament, and a pretty good "Coffee Cup Offense"

All that being said, are you ready to speak up on behalf of our troops at war?

America is a fee country, you can cut&run from the issues of the 40k troops Bush's generals sent and Al Qaqaa.

(hint: try to recall the value of honor and integrity taugh you in your military training, paid for by US tax dollars)

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too

Lew said...

Cliff, I am beginning to think that you don't even know what you are.

For some reason, you have transformed a personal grudge against Larry bailey into an all out war against the Swift Boat Veterans.

You obviously know very little about them as their formation and mission was (please read with both eyes open) TO OPPOSE JOHN F. KERRY'S ASCENT TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!

Nothing more.

You lambaste us because we don't support the troops in the manner you deem proper, yet I haven't seen a word from you where you take any issue with "WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS BUT NOT THE WAR" nonsense.

Since you reside in California, what is your interest in keeping a liberal Pennsylvannia Congresscritter in office, as a conservative?

In closing, I'd like to ask just how long and in what branch did you serve?

Since Kerry today emailed a lot of us that his 4 Veterans have "moral authority," it would help if I knew yours.

chancuff said...

"For some reason, you have transformed a personal grudge against Larry bailey into an all out war against the Swift Boat Veterans."

not exactly a cut&run. More like a bob&weave.

Name ONE Swift Boat Veteran for Truth, created in March of 2004, that said ONE WORD about our Current Commander in Chief's remarkable incompetence in his decision to give the go-ahead/ORDER to wage war in Iraq WITHOUT the 40,000 troops of the 4th.

Dubya' seems to be sensitive to the issue of there not being enough troops to prevent the mess he created ... HOW MANY TIMES has that pissant good Christian soldier claimed he had exactly the number of troops his generals asked for, and that there was NO shortage?

take a moment to catch your breath and give a thought to the thousand of our troops who have been blown into too many pieces to count, courtesy of our current Commander in Chief, whose God-Fearing Christianity is not sufficient to the cause of keeping him from LYING about the troop shortage, he was fully aware of, when that imbecile waged this war.

You stick up for your crumbling bliefs, I'll stick up for our troops at war.

You say potato, I say potaato.

When you manage to gather your thoughts, again, kindly address what I asked you:

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"I am a member of that group and can honestly tell you it was a matter of principle against Kerry and not for Bush. Bush just happened to win because of Veterans like us and the majority of the American people in the last election."

As a member of this group, please feel free to trump Larry Bailey and his bootmurtha.com cowards regarding your, and every other swiftboaters' neglect of two key issues that resulted in thousands of our troops being blown to bits, unnecessarily.

1) the 40,000 troops of the 4th our current Commander in Chief KNOWINGLY left behind when he declared war in Iraq.

2) the catastrophic consequence of not having enough troops to keep a couple hundred tons of explosives under control at Al Qaqaa.

I got a "stupid mistake" out of Larry Bailey.

Are you man enough to top that?

FWIW, Lookatme! Larry thought I was a liberal, too.

What's with you dittoheads thinkin' all that is not black, must be white?

additionally, not that this matters one stich, there's no group, it's just me, my Irish temperament, and a pretty good "Coffee Cup Offense"

All that being said, are you ready to speak up on behalf of our troops at war?

America is a fee country, you can cut&run from the issues of the 40k troops Bush's generals sent and Al Qaqaa.

(hint: try to recall the value of honor and integrity taugh you in your military training, paid for by US tax dollars)

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too

Lew said...

Cliff, are you retarded? what is it about THE SBVT WAS CREATED SOLELY TO OPPOSE JOHN KERRY that you fail to comprehend?

If you want to know who said what and when, feel free to search the archives of the discussion forum there.

You seem stuck on the "40,000." What General asked for them and was refused? I have heard any other than retired Clintonites complaining of anything.

I asked you some simple questions and you fail to answer.

Now, get this. You do not run my blog. You have no rights to free speech here. That is at my sole discretion.

If all you are interested in is airing your personal grudge against Larry Bailey, take it elsewhere. If you desire an exhange of ideas, stop spamming me with your personal repeats in each post and answer as well as ask.

Personally, I couldn't care if you are liberal or conservative, rudeness and spamming won't be tolerated.

I'll ask again, what branch and when did you serve? How long?

Lew said...

Well, Cliff, from your rants, it's difficult to tell whether you support Murtha or just hate the SBVT and Republicans. So far, you have posted nothing supportive of Murtha, just hate of Republicans and the SBVT.

If all you have is your hate, you have nothing.

Lew said...

Well, CLiff, I can see you are not interested in a discussion or an exchange of ideas.

Therefore, I exercise my right as author of this blog to delete you as I see fit.

I can see why the rest ignore you.

Further comments by you will be deleted as they come.

Cry to anyone you wish about it.

Lew said...

Like I said, CLiff, your replies will be deleted since you have no desire to discuss, only to spam your opinion.

If you had replied to anything I asked, maybe we would have had a discussion.

Again, anyhting other than replies to my questions goes into the trash, where it belongs.