Thursday, October 11, 2007

HALLALUJAH, Democrats Found God

October 11, 2007

Or, so we might be led to believe, based upon comments coming from several prominent Democrats recently, especially those running to become President of the United States.

Senator Hillary Clinton recently stated, "No one can read the New Testament of our Bible without recognizing that Jesus had a lot more to say about how we treat the poor than most of the issues that were talked about in this election."

A funny claim for sure since it has been shown that conservatives, the very members of the “Vast Right Winged Conspiracy” she professes is out to get here, donates and contributes more to the poor than do the Liberal followers she panders to.

In January 2005, Clinton said, “Research shows that the primary reason that teenage girls abstain is because of their religious and moral values. We should embrace this--and support programs that reinforce the idea that abstinence at a young age is not just the smart thing to do, it is the right thing to do.” She continues with, “We should use all the resources at our disposal to ensure that teens are getting the information they need to make the right decision.”

After talking a little more about parents and teens preventing unwanted pregnancy, she then says, “I have long been a strong supporter of Title X, the only federal program devoted solely to making comprehensive family planning services available to anyone interested in seeking them.” In the same speech, Clinton adds, “But we should also recognize what works and what doesn't work, and to be fair, the jury is still out on the effectiveness of abstinence-only programs.”

Allow me to say, Senator, that not having sex is a very effective method of preventing unwanted pregnancy.

Clinton has voted 100% of the time with pro-abortion NARAL and 0% of the time with the National Right to Life Committee. Perhaps, the Senator has missed portions of her own Bible that she doesn’t quote. Psalm 139:13 For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. 14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well. 15 My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them. (NKJV)

In ancient Biblical Law, it was laid out clearly what was to happen if an unborn was harmed. Exodus 21: 22 “If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman’s husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23 But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, (NKJV)

We are no longer under ancient Biblical Law, though. So what of the New Testament? 1 Timothy 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. (NKJV)

Are we “providing for our own” by sucking the life we create out of the womb and disposing of it as we would a piece of trash?

Ms. Clinton says that the “the jury is still out on effectiveness of abstinence only programs.” Yet, the Bible she proudly flashes about in her campaigning says, Acts 15:19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. (NKJV)

Even though several have tried and several have claimed it not to be true, no one has ever proved any portion of the Bible wrong. Clearly, to me, abortion for birth control is not a Biblically sanctioned procedure.

In addressing her belief on the accuracy of the Bible, Clinton once said, "The whole Bible gives you a glimpse of God and God's desire for a personal relationship, but we can't possibly understand every way God is communicating with us. I've always felt that people who try to shoehorn in their cultural and social understandings of the time into the Bible might be actually missing the larger point."

Ms. Clinton is also to have said she “believed in the resurrection of Jesus, though she described herself as less sure of the doctrine that being a Christian is the only way to salvation." The Bible, however, says at John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (NKJV)

So far I have focused on Hillary, the presumed front-runner and most likely nominee for the Democrats nod for 2008. Lest you think it is only her, I previously addressed Nancy Pelosi’s Prayers. However, Queen Pelosi isn’t running for President, but two others are.

First term Senator Barack Obama claims, “My Muslim Ties Are a Strength.” In Blasting the Christian Right and claiming they had “hijacked” faith, Obama also says, “We can affirm our faith without endangering the separation of church and state, as long as we understand that when we’re in the public square, we have to speak in universal terms that everyone can understand.”

The Bible says, Acts 18:9 Now the Lord spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, “Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not keep silent; 10 for I am with you, and no one will attack you to hurt you; for I have many people in this city.” (NKJV) We are also told, James 2:14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. (NKJV)

Obama has also launched his People of Faith website. He is credited with very recently proclaiming, “"We're going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."
Yes, Senator, but just who’s Kingdom?

Senator Obama claims membership in the Trinity United Church of Christ, Senior Pastor Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. In a recent interview appearing in Germany’s Spiegel Online, Rev. Wright is quoted as saying “Right now, the average American or the average German or the average Brit couldn't tell you the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite. I mean, you got Christians who lynch people in the name of Jesus, and you got Muslims who fly planes into buildings. But you got some Muslims who don't do that. You got some Christians who ain't got time to lynch people.”

He also stated, “Far right radical conservative Christians want to put prayer back in the school. Now my family may start off the day in prayer, and I'm going to teach my daughters and my sons how to pray. But I'm not going to force your kids to pray like my kids.”

With all due respect, Reverend Wright, when I was younger and they still had prayer in school, no one was “forced to recite” the prayer. We had Jewish students, Jehovah’s Witness Students and several others in my school in South Florida. For those who did not prefer to recite the more generic “Lord’s Prayer,” they usually stepped out in the loggia or stood respectfully and did not participate. No one cared, no one was forced, and no one was castigated for not reciting the prayer with us.

And, while we are at it, just where are Christians “lynching people” in the name of Jesus? The days of the Ku Klux Klan doing that are long gone, those persons now either dead or incarcerated for the crimes.

With comments as these, it is little wonder that some consider Reverend Wright to be racially divisive.

Obama claims membership in his church now for about two decades and has recently said, "But somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart. It got hijacked. Part of it is because the so-called leaders of the Christian right are all too eager to exploit what divides us."

Seeing the disparity in his comments, the New York Sun’s Kenneth Blackwell recently wrote, “[Obama’s] views on a whole range of social issues are incompatible with traditional Christian doctrine adhered to by millions of persons today.

Evidently every ordained Christian minister must submit to a liberal interpretation of the Bible to avoid being labeled an exploiting hijacker of religion.”

Perhaps Senator Obama missed Jesus’ words at Matthew 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it. (NKJV) Maybe, it is just a case of his words, "I don't know what Bible they're reading. But it didn't jibe with my version."

We now turn our attention to the Democrat candidate who, with his soft North Carolina drawl, perfectly coiffed hairdo and boyish charm, might easily pass for at least a Televangelist. That he too is always hawking for donations just adds to that mystique. Of course, we are talking about John Edwards, more affectionately known as “the Breck Girl.”

In June of 2007, Edwards was quoted as saying, “Christ would be “appalled” at the selfishness of Americans and the willingness to go to war when it’s not necessary.” Besides the obvious of we have been under attack by radical Jihadists from an oppressive sect of Islam, necessitating war with these villainous beasts that would fly occupied aircraft into occupied buildings and blow themselves and those around them up in suicide bombings, who is Mr. Edwards to mention “selfishness?”

John Edwards resides in a 28,200-square-foot home sitting on 102 acres of land in Orange County, North Carolina. I do not begrudge the Edwards’s of their prosperity or the ability to own such a domicile. I do begrudge the fact that I, with my paltry 1100 square foot home sitting on a postage stamp lot, less that 1/8 of an acre, is considered “selfish” by Edwards.

My guess is that Edwards was either fixing his hair, or dreaming of channeling deceased children in front of juries when as a child, his Sunday School teacher read from the Bible at Matthew 19:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” Jesus replied at verse 21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions. 23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (NKJV)

As I have already shown above, studies have discovered that for all the hype and bemoaning from Liberals about caring for the poor, it is Conservatives who most often do the most and donate the most for them.

Our Liberal Democrat candidates all make a good show of talking about helping the poor on the backs of the wealthy, but never forget, every last single one of these candidates and many of their larger supporters are very wealthy themselves and take full advantage of any and all tax breaks due them. Yes, doing so is legal and proper, but it should give one cause to consider why they call for us to do more, when we are already doing more and they desperately hang on to their own wealth.

With all of the front runners suddenly embracing religion, Christianity, all of a sudden, and counseling us for not doing enough for others, perhaps they should blow the dust off of their own Bibles, or have a staffer read it to them and read 2 Timothy 3:1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

I will leave you with one last Democrat who, although not a candidate this time around, did run for President in 2004 and is currently the Democrat National Committee Chairman, Howard Dean, former Governor of the State of Vermont. In his failed 2004 campaign he was quoted as saying, “"If you know much about the Bible, which I do," answered a reporters query as to what is his favorite New Testament Book was, “The book of Job, but I don't like the way it ends. Some would argue, you know, in some of the books of the New Testament, the ending of the Book of Job is different. I think, if I'm not mistaken, there's one book where there's a more optimistic ending, which we believe was tacked on later."

Governor Dean, I hope you fired the staffer who wrote that for you. The Book of Job is in the Old Testament. *

Lew

* In all fairness, Governor Dean corrected his little gaffe a few hours later, admitting that the Book of Job is indeed in the Old Testament after all.

7 comments:

Eileen (aka Coboble) said...

I don't believe that 100% of the bible is the absolute word of God.
Humans decided which writings belonged in the bible, and I have no reason to believe they got it right.
There is so much content in the Bible that one can pick and choose quotes to support all sorts of ideas (even ideas that oppose each other).

I have come to base my own faith on Jesus' sermon at the mount.
As for the rest of it, I pick and choose what I feel is right, just like everyone else. I like to believe that God gives me the feeling, but if that is the truth, why does he give different feelings to others.


Many Democrats are religious, Carter for one was (and is) highly religious.
The Democrats did not just find religion.
In fact, many Religious Democrats practice what I consider the most important aspects of Jesus' teachings.
Forgive, treat others as you would like to be treated.

I would not mind having an agnostic for President.
Those who are certain they know the truth about God, can be dangerous (especially if they have it wrong).
Those who do not believe they know the truth, are more likely to listen to different viewpoints and give them due consideration.

The Bible has been used, to justify horrendous acts, such as slavery.
It is now used by some to justify violence against homosexuals.
People who believe they are acting because it is what god wants, are very dangerous. Christianity is not void of those who use it to commit violent acts against others.

Hillary was not arguing that Abstinence does not work.
Of course it works.
Her argument was that teaching only Abstinence may not work as well as teaching it along with other methods.
There are those who will benefit from knowing what birth control is available and how effective (or non effective) it is.
I doubt that a lack of knowledge about Birth Control is going to prevent people from having sex, they would otherwise have.

Lew Waters said...

Coboble, the problem I see with the Bible is the many variations and translations. Most like to put their personal theology in where they deem correct.

However, my point here isn't the Bible itself. It is the Democrat front-runners sudden embracing of Christianity when their lives don't reflect it.

Carter does profess a strong religious belief, bnut is he really living it when he knowingly lies to help better his party's chance in elections?

Is it really Christianity condoning and supporting the slaughter of unborn children strictly for a matter of convenience?

I find it very odd that you would say many Religious Democrats practice what I consider the most important aspects of Jesus' teachings.
Forgive, treat others as you would like to be treated
and not see that Democrats have lined up against conservatives, Republicans and President Bush, saying anything they can against them, embellishing simple matters to create scandals where none exists, and excuse mis-actions of their own.

I find the Democrat party hypocritical to take such a stance of pulling anything they can muster against us, but cry like little stuck piggies if you point out their misdeeds.

Knowing full well that not everyone believes exactly the same, I still find it highly hypocritical that someone lives a different lifestyle than they preach for others.

There comes a point in life where one ceases to listen to the viewpoint of others they know to be unknowledgeable in something.

On a second point, if you really wish to appreciate the Bible, in so far it has been properly translated, research the original languages it was written in. Also, when reding it, read it from the mindset of a Jew (since it was primarily Jews of old who wrote it) instead of the viewpoint of a modern Christian. That alone can be an eye opener in regards to modern theology.

To me, if someone is going to preach or embrace the Bible during campaign stops in Churches, maybe they should at least be trying to live by it.

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Eileen (aka Coboble) said...

Lew,
I am talking about the Christian's I know personally which are Democrats, not the politicians you speak of (who I often suspect are not honest about their beliefs anyway).

As for my own religious views, they are "under construction".
But a few things remain constant
- My belief that Jesus' was blessed with a wisdom from God that is worthy of my faith and following.
(As to his exact nature being exactly equal to God, Son of God, Enlightened in a Special way by God; I am not firm in any specific belief.)
- I highly suspect the bible is not the absolute word of God, but that a great deal of it was authored by those inspired by God (inspired by God is not exactly equal to absolute word of God).
- Something happens at the end of our life, where the truth is revealed. People are not condemned to Hell based on not knowing the truth. The idea that we have been told the truth numerous times is not the same as really being made aware of the truth as fact.
My belief that something happens in the end is based on things that occurred when my Grandmother (Who was a very kind good person) died, and then again when my Mother (Who was not a Kind person but still managed to make things right with God) died.

- A Book of God's law that does not outright condemn slavery, bothers me a lot. Remember, the Bible was used to Justify Slavery.

I do believe that Carter is highly Religious, and that he does not intentionally Lie (Although I question the rational level of his thought as he ages).
I also believe that Bush is highly Religious, almost to a dangerous Extreme.

I do not want to fight a holy war.
I am not in favor of a holy war.
There are things about the current I am in favor of. Fighting all Muslims is not one of them.

Lew Waters said...

Coboble, the point of my post is those politicians I mentioned. It has nothing to do with your religious beliefs or mine.

I grew up in the old solid Democrat religious South long before liberalism infested the Democrat party to the point it has. I attended an Assembly of God Church most of my life and have spent years studying the Bible views of various religions, including even the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Catholics and others.

I think both parties have devoutly religious people within them and both have their share of charlatans. However, currently, it is those Democrats I mentioned that are making a show of religious beliefs they apparently don’t have in an effort to garner votes to sit at the helm of our nation.

Voters need to look deeply at all politicians and not just openly accept their claims, before voting for them.

I find it very intriguing that you say both Bush and Carter are “highly religious,” yet only Bush is “almost to a dangerous Extreme.”

What “dangerous extreme” would that be? Fighting terrorists? Preventing another attack killing thousands of our citizens? Lowering taxes across the board so the economy runs smoother and we all prosper more? Because he feels people should be free?

Perhaps you should research Jimmy Carter some and see just how much of today’s Middle East Troubles remain squarely at his feet. He may have a devout religious belief, but that does not excuse either his naiveté or ineptness.

Eileen (aka Coboble) said...

Could we be on the verge of a major Holy war?

Are we fighting the Terrorists or the Islam religion?

People fighting because they believe God is on their side and wants them to fight the "other" religion?

Carter had "Ivory Tower" ideals, that didn't pan out in practice.
His competence can be questioned, but I still believe he is an ethical individual. Perhaps he was dangerous. But he is not a player anymore.

To the world, we (our nation due to our leadership) seems very arrogant. We are easy to dislike, and it is not because we love freedom.

Lew Waters said...

Could we be on the verge of a major Holy war?

No, we are in the middle of one brought on by Radical Islamists who have stated they are destined to rule the world.

Are we fighting the Terrorists or the Islam religion?

We are fighting terrorists who have come from within the Islamic religion. I disagree with those who condemn all of Islam just as I disagree with those who condemn Judaism or Christianity. My bone of contention with Muslims is the lack of positive actions from too many (not all) in opposing terrorists within their midsts.

People fighting because they believe God is on their side and wants them to fight the "other" religion?

That has ben the call since the beginning of time.

Carter had "Ivory Tower" ideals, that didn't pan out in practice.
His competence can be questioned, but I still believe he is an ethical individual. Perhaps he was dangerous. But he is not a player anymore.


Carter is very much a player, still. His vocal opposition to America overseas while we are fighting a war would be considered treason back in the 1940s.

Ex-presidents still carry a lot of clout when they remain so much in the public and and so heavily opposed as he and Clinton have been. Incidentally, they are the first two in history to ever so openly oppose every step a sitting president makes. Their actions havedone nothing but embolden another enemy and hurt our country.

To the world, we (our nation due to our leadership) seems very arrogant. We are easy to dislike, and it is not because we love freedom.

Not so. The old world has been against us for decades as the upstarts. In World War Two, the phrase from our ally, Britian, was "they are over paid, oversexed and over here," in regards to our Troops fighting for their freedom.

In 1958 a book was published by he title of "The Ugly American." it was hailed at the time as a "slashing exposé of American arrogance, incompetence, and corruption in Southeast Asia."

Disliking Americans and America isn't new, it has been going on for a long time now.